S1 E10 - Evicted: The Prequel

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Judy, episode 10. And today we're gonna take a little bit of a different angle. We're gonna talk a little bit about some of the places we lived. Some of them are in North Dakota, but some are gonna morph into other places.

SPEAKER_01 0:10

And it was kind of crazy because all of us kids moved out within the same six-month period. And did you ever get a like a little discussion on, hey, when you get your own place, maybe we should pay attention to XYZ, pay your bills on time? Do you do you remember anything like that?

SPEAKER_00 0:26

Never got any kind of a heads up or any kind of direction on what that looks like. I do remember before I moved out, I started actually accumulating supplies for my place. And I think mom and dad were kind of bummed out about that because mom would come down into my room and I had a big tub, and in that tub I had toothpaste and toothbrush, just all the stuff that you needed to live on your own. And I think mom got kind of sad about that. But one other thing, Judy, mom and dad always, I think a little bit while we were growing up, are like, I can't wait till you guys get out of the house and half joking, but some reality, some reality to that. So it, you know, we took them to heart, like you said, within six months we all split.

SPEAKER_01 1:04

Yeah. And for me personally, I was really young, which I'll talk about in a second, but I don't ever remember any kind of discussion on how to manage your money, how to do anything. I mean, not a single conversation, and then of course, no classes in school because we were too busy taking bowling and curling and and skiing and all those the big priorities of things that we needed.

SPEAKER_00 1:25

Hey, public schools that taught you things that not necessarily you're gonna use later in life. No, the math that we learned, we don't need that anymore. You got calculators now and everything that does it for you. Spelling, you know, I was a spelling champion. Who cares? You got spell check. Okay, nerd. I just sneak in that I was a spelling champion.

SPEAKER_01 1:40

I'm like, all right, well, whoop-dee-doo. I moved out right after I turned 17, like two months after I turned 17. I don't know if you remember that, but I did graduate early. Not that, you know, I was smart, had nothing to do with being smart, but I graduated December 1980. And because I actually was gonna go move to California, go to Pepperdine University, and live in a cabana with one of my friends. So that was kind of the plan. So that was kind of the the the deal. Of course, I couldn't get into Pepperdine, we couldn't afford Pepperdine, and there was no cabana dreams coming true for me.

SPEAKER_00 2:15

Pepperdine just sounded cool. I was like, I don't even know what that school does or specializes in, but it'd be cool to say, yeah, I went to Pepperdine. Judy, I also left at 17. By the way, I was class of 80, graduated, left immediately after I graduated at 17. But to your point, you were a young 17, I was a mature 17.

SPEAKER_01 2:34

And my pepperdine dreams were crushed. I was telling one of my neighbors about it who actually went to Pepperdine. I had no idea until I until I told the story. But I moved into not the dorm, and I ended up obviously not going to Pepperdine, not even a university. I ended up going to Bismarck Junior College. And really, at that time in our generation, a lot of people didn't go to college. It wasn't really advocated. I didn't move into a dorm. I didn't know what that even was. I rented a little apartment, which was really a room in some lady's house in Bismarck, North Dakota. I rented the place, I signed the lease, I'm all excited. Mom and Dad helped me, you know, get all my stuff down there. And anyway, I got evicted before I ever even moved in. Yeah. So I hadn't even like spent one night in the place and I got evicted. And it was crazy. What happened? What'd you do? It wasn't like I threw a rager in like a one-room place. You know, it wasn't even that. It was really bizarre. I went down, I was excited one day before, like a few weeks before I was gonna move in. And I had my stuff in there and everything was there, but I went out for the day and when I was in my place, I'd smoked in there. You know, that's my place. I rented it. I know I was a smoker at the time, so I had a big old ashtray. I had my cigarette bots in there. I come back from my little shopping excursion and my ashtray is empty. And I'm like, huh. Did the landlady come into my place and clean out my ashtray? Which was weird. I'm like, no permission, no nothing. And then there's an eviction notice on the door. Out with it at the end of the month. Well, I wasn't even gonna move in till the end of the month. I'm like, I don't even know how that happens. Evicted, first place, first experience, note yourself. Don't ever live in somebody's house, don't rent a room, bad idea.

SPEAKER_00 4:20

Judy, I'm gonna say if the landlady's going into your room and micromanaging what you're doing and cleaning out your ashtray, you don't want to live there because that would have ended up being a situation where you're like, what the hell did I get into? So you're actually kind of lucky, I think, that you got out of there. Because back then you could smoke. Smoking was allowed. Now they have, you know, the no-smoking apartments and no smoking rooms, and you can't smoke anywhere.

SPEAKER_01 4:42

Which is smoke in a grocery store then. Yeah. It was a crazy time.

SPEAKER_00 4:46

Yeah, I remember smoking everywhere. And you know, even at work, where you know, guy next to me, a non-smoker, I'm over there chain smoking. We're going, hey, horrible, horrible. But that's how things have changed. Judy, also, I got a similar kind of thing. At least I got to live in my apartment for a few months before I got evicted. Funny that we both got evicted from the first place that we lived. Same deal, 17 years old, moving to Minneapolis, going to Brown Institute. The folks helped drive me out there. I get a room, and the lady's name. By the way, I've got landlords Minnie and Millie that I'll tell you about. This is Minnie in Minneapolis.

unknown 5:22

No, Mickey.

SPEAKER_00 5:23

Could have been Minnie, Minnie Mouse, maybe, but that's old lady at a big house in Minneapolis down 34th Street and off of Bloomington, if you know Minneapolis in that area. Big house. And basically the second and third floors of this house are individual rooms that get rented out. And then she's downstairs, and she's by herself, might have her daughter living with her, but she's downstairs. There's six guys all going to Brown Institute living on the second and third floor. Well, we throw a couple of parties. She gets, you know, a little wacky about that and warns us. Well, one night, not party related, you know, our room, individual rooms locked. Well, one night, I don't know what happened. I think I had a nightmare, and I ran out of my room and the door would close behind you. So I ran out of my room in my underwear. That's all I'm wearing. Just wearing my underwear. And I go out of my room. It's two o'clock in the morning. Tiny whiteies, here you go.

unknown 6:12

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 6:13

All of a sudden, boop, door shuts. I'm like, what the? How do I get back into the room? I can't, you know. Oh my God, I gotta go downstairs and wake up Minnie and knock on the door, you know, bang, bang, bang. And she opens the door, and she kind of already probably didn't like me because of couple of the parties we had. Well, here I am standing, not wasn't a party night, it's a school night, but she opens the door and here's one of her tenants standing there, almost nude, wearing just Haynes underwear, and looking at her, going, I got locked out of my room. So then she, you know, obviously let me back in the room. But eventually, what happened is we had another party. And it necessarily wasn't a rager, but we had probably, I'm gonna say, 15, 20 people over, second floor of this house. We've got beer, somebody made marijuana brownies, and we are having a good old time. Well, she starts screaming up the stairs about the party to shut it down and this and that. And she was a little bit off the rails anyway, and unhinged and whatnot. And not on the city. Wonder why.

SPEAKER_01 7:10

I wonder why. Traumatized in the night by unaware.

SPEAKER_00 7:14

Hey, listen, if you're an old grumpy lady, don't have six future broadcasters in your house because what do you think's gonna happen? Well, the reason I got evicted, Judy, was that we were having this party. She's yelling up the stairs. I took a hammer and she had one of those old cast iron steel radiators and you know, it to heat the house. And I went up with the hammer and started banging on that, and that, you know, resonated, I think, through all three stories of that house. Well, within 48 hours of doing that, which was stupid on my behalf, but within 48 hours of doing that, got the eviction notice and uh had to move. Similar to your story, got to live there a little bit longer than you did, but got evicted. First place I ever lived in my life, and by the way, the only time in my life I've ever been evicted. Yeah, that was the case for me too. But how did she know it was you? I think somebody told on me. You know, I was thinking about that as I was telling the story. I was like, wait a minute, you know, I get single money. Yeah. The other five guys still live there. Donnie got even this is Donnie luck. You know, we've talked about, you know, about the.

SPEAKER_01 8:16

Listen, don't say that's luck. You have a hammer. You know what I mean? I don't know what part of that's is a good idea, like many of your other things. But you go, well, I don't know. Why did I get evicted and no one else? But I'm gonna guess you were probably the only one with the hammer.

SPEAKER_00 8:29

I deserved it. But Judy, I gotta ask back to your story. What'd you end up doing? You're at 17. You get evicted. You haven't even moved in technically. What happened?

SPEAKER_01 8:38

Well, you know, it's crazy because I thought, well, one, I wasn't gonna tell my folks I got evicted and, you know, the place that they helped me find because totally embarrassing, and I didn't want to hear I told you so. So I am apartment shopping, and I again my budget was like $90 a month. I was a student. I was, I didn't even I don't even think I had a job yet down there. I answered an ad in a paper, and I went to this old Victorian home that used to be like a governor's mansion or some other kind of mansion before North Dakota was a state. It was like the Dakota territory. The place was massive. I went in there and it was looked kind of creepy, it looked haunted, and there was the owner of the building painting. I went in there and I said, Hey, I'm looking for a place to live and blah, blah, blah. And he's like, How old are you? And I'm like, 17.

unknown 9:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 9:31

And uh, yeah. And so anyway, he's painting and I said, I said, how much is the rent? And he's like, it's $125. Well, whoa, that is way over my budget. I can't afford $125. I said, You need an apartment manager? I said, Maybe I could manage this building for you. He's like, You're 17. I said, Yeah, but I'm in business school. I think I'll be really good at this. He's like, it's kind of a rough crowd that uh that that lives in the building. He goes, Sometimes you have to serve eviction notices and things like that. I said, I got it. Don't worry. And in my mind, I was thinking, yeah, I'm gonna have my dad do all the repairs or whatever work needs to be done in the place. But I got the job and I got my rent at 90 bucks, but I got a lot of other crazy, crazy things happened in that weird building.

SPEAKER_00 10:15

Well, kind of weird that you went from being a tenant, although you technically weren't in that other place, went from being a tenant to now being the landlord. Now being the one that's gonna go in there and go, hey, totally. But hey, what a cool gig at 17, though, to be an apartment manager. Didn't somebody die on your watch in that apartment or what happened?

SPEAKER_01 10:33

Well, there was a lot of crazy things that happened, and yes, that did happen. Now I'm gonna save that story for a little bit later, but I will tell you that the person that lived below me was from the state pet. So he had been in the state, I called them my pen pal. Wow. He ended up being a really nice guy, and then he had a like a little heroin addict friend that would come over too. Also a nice guy, felt bad for me because I was like a college kid, so they'd bring me up dinner and stuff like that. Pen pals in the first floor, and then some other kind of criminals around the corner. That place had 12 apartments in it. And uh first week, I do have to evict somebody with the sheriff, because you know, didn't know if there's gonna be some domestic thing. So anyway, kind of crazy on that end.

SPEAKER_00 11:18

Early County Sheriff coming down to help you evict. Yes. What did Rhett get knocked down to because you were managing?

SPEAKER_01 11:25

$70. Yeah. So winning. It was a really cool apartment. It was like again, it was a studio apartment. It wasn't just a room, it was super nice. It was like Rhoda's place on Mary Tyler Moore. Wow. So anyway, Rhoda was a cool one.

SPEAKER_00 11:39

So I gotta tell you, I went from Minnie to Millie, and Minneapolis was Mini. And then I got my first radio job. I went to Brown, obviously, in Minneapolis, got my first radio job in Gillette, Wyoming. The folks again helping out, you know, they moved me to Minneapolis. And then when it was time to move to Gillette, Wyoming, they came to Minneapolis, helped pack up all my gear. We came back, made a pit stop in mine up for a little bit of time, and then I had to embark on my career, my solo life in uh broadcasting. So I didn't know. Wait, wait, wait.

SPEAKER_01 12:09

I gotta ask. So Millie is the lady's name?

SPEAKER_00 12:11

Minnie was the landlord in Minneapolis. Millie, which we're getting to, was the landlord in Gillette, Wyoming. So back-to-back landlords, Minnie and Millie. Well, Millie was kind of a nut job as well. And normally we don't mention names, but I'm pretty sure that both Minnie and Millie aren't around anymore. We're not throwing last names out there, so nobody's gonna be able to identify. We have no pictures, no evidence. But yeah, I went from Minnie to Millie. Well, I rented a trailer and mom and dad helped me, and we look around Gillette, Wyoming. And by the way, in Gillette, men outnumbered women 12 to one. Big cold town, and it was a lot of guys. And when I lived there, I think it was 17,000 people, and now it's double or or triple that. A lot of people live there. But I rented a trailer, Millie was my landlady. From there, I decided mom and dad came down one time to visit me, and they're like, hey, why don't you buy your own trailer? And not even thinking about how broadcasting works and that it's a very transient industry. It's gonna be a lot of moving around. You want to move up in the broadcast industry, you're gonna have to move from Gillette to a bigger market, to a bigger market, and hopefully, you know, one day get into a major market. So didn't really have the foresight to think that. So when mom and dad are like, hey, why don't you get your own trailer? Uh yeah, went out and got a loan. Dad co-signed on it and got my own trailer, ended up living there. But back to the men outnumbering women, I lived there, Judy, for the better part of a year. Never had a date. There's no girls in town. Well, there's a girl that works at the radio station and she's the news lady. And again, not going to mention names, but her name actually was the name of a superhero. She's the news lady. Well, her and I start dating, but we're secretly dating because the radio station doesn't want us to date. You know, they had one of those rules that, hey, you know, and they didn't even take into consideration, Judy, that men outnumbered women 12 to 1. They're just like, you're screwed. Hey, so what that there's a good-looking girl working in the news department.

SPEAKER_01 14:01

You can't date her. Either way, my vat robot vacuum cleaner's named after her.

SPEAKER_00 14:06

Oh, okay. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 14:08

Not that that means anything, that she was the maid.

SPEAKER_00 14:12

Hoover, no. Sucking. Yeah, definitely not that. Yeah, no, no. Yeah, we're not going there with that. So she had the name of a superhero, didn't have any superpowers. So anyway, I was dating her, and the radio station eventually found out about it. Within a week, I was fired. The radio station just went ballistic on me, just for other things as well. And I really hadn't done anything bad. I was the afternoon drive DJ, got fired on a Friday, and I'm like, oh my God, this is just a nightmare. So evicted from my first apartment, fired from my first job in radio. And that might sound worse than it actually is. I actually had people that told me later that you haven't really worked in the industry until you've been fired. So kind of took that into a little bit of consideration, but still bummed out I lost my job. Well, the newsgirl, again, to remain nameless, told a friend of hers what happened. Well, the friend was a reporter for the Casper Star Tribune, the state newspaper in Casper, Wyoming. Well, they ended up writing a story about it. And I remember the headline, and it wasn't the front page, but it was like page three. And the headline across the top of the paper on page three said, radio romance costs DJ his job. And then they did a whole article about this girl and I and dating and getting fired. Well, I got so much publicity out of that, Judy, that within a week I had multiple job offers. So I had a job offer from Bismarck, North Dakota. Well, the news girl ends up quitting her job and moving with me. So this girl lived with me for a while and everything was kind of going good. And I remember I went up, I gotta just tell you real quick, funny story about mom and dad and kind of where they're at with us, you know, again, not preparing us to live on our own or any of that kind of stuff. So this girl comes to live with me in Bismarck. Mom and Dad are kind of weird about it. And I go up, state fair. Judy, the state fair's going on. This is old school. In fact, grandma, my grandma wouldn't talk to me. Oh, Donnie's shacking up with some girl. You know, and grandma lived in the same town in Bismarck. So no, no communication with her because I'm living with a girl. Well, the North Dakota State Fair is going on up in Wynat. I drive up for the day just to visit mom and dad, and the weirdest thing happens. Dad goes, Hey, I want to talk to you. I want to pull, I want to pull you in the backyard uh and just to have a chat with you. And Judy, you're not gonna believe it. I'm 19 years old. 19. And you know what dad wanted to talk to me about? I know. What? What? The birds and the bees. Like hello. Yeah, yeah. It was the birds and the bees discussion. And I almost had to say, Dad, hey, listen, four or five years ago or longer, this would have been a great discussion after I've lived in Minneapolis under the guidance of Minnie, and after I'm in Gillette, Wyoming, living with a landlady named Millie, and in a town where men outnumbered women 12 to 1, and I finally get a date and a girlfriend, and now you're telling me a year later about the birds and the bees. It was very I still tell that story to people. I'm like, yeah, I was 19 years old. And my mom and dad, my dad's like, hey, let me tell you how it's all worth.

SPEAKER_01 17:12

Well, I have to tell you, and I have to, I'm gonna go back to your story too in a second, but I have to tell you when when I moved into that apartment, the one where I was the apartment manager for, they thought they were gonna give me a curfew, and I lived in a totally different city. Wait, mom and dad giving you a curfew? Yeah. They're like, uh, you know, you gotta be home by midnight. I'm like, what are you talking about? I'm going out to happy hour and I'm going with my fake ID and I'm gonna go get some pink squirrels on ladies' night. Gotta go back though, real quick, because there's a couple of things that I'm curious about in your story. One, Gillette, Wyoming, I do think is that's like another nowhere. That is a total middle of nowhere. And it's also, wasn't it the Razor City?

SPEAKER_00 17:53

It was nicknamed the Razor City, Gillette, Wyoming. What's funny is when we drove out there, we're driving through southwest North Dakota, the Badlands, Theater Roosevelt National Park. We get into South Dakota, we got the Black Hills, Rapid City. We get into the beginning part of Wyoming, there's Sundance, it's gorgeous. And I'm thinking to myself, oh my gosh, I'm gonna be living in just a beautiful place, Chillette, Wyoming. And wow, this is awesome. Well, then I saw a sign as you're driving down the highway. I think it was Interstate 90, as you're driving down I-90 headed west after Sundance, Wyoming, it flattens out, and all of a sudden it goes to Nothingsville. Again, to your point, middle of nowhere, and it's coal country, and it was like this town that they built in the middle of nowhere, and nothing was around there, no scenery, no anything. So, not to trash Gillette, and not that I have any fond memories at Gillette, it was dusty and dirty and ugly town. And again, back to that men outnumbering women, it was just a really bad place for me to start my career in radio. Although I will tell you real quick, they did pay well. That was a high-paying job for a first job in radio.

SPEAKER_01 18:59

I remember right, you were one of the only guys that got out of your class that got like a true radio gig right away, too. So that was cool. Didn't the folks, I have to ask, didn't they come and visit you one time too when there was like another nightmare? It seems like you were in this phase where you had these crazy ass nightmares all the time.

SPEAKER_00 19:17

Oh.

SPEAKER_01 19:18

So people woke up screaming and you're on a yeah.

SPEAKER_00 19:21

This first trailer I lived in with Millie was an old school trailer and it had mice. And that's why I eventually got out of there. I'm like, okay, I can't handle this. Well, anyway, it had, you know, drawers in the kitchen, and I remember like the second or third drawer from the floor had like mice droppings in it. I'm like, what the? And then at night you could sometimes hear them. The mice crawling and walking. It might be TMI for our podcast. Anyway, Judy, yeah, you're right. Mom and dad are over one night. I'm sleeping in bed. Well, all of a sudden, I had this nightmare that I was being attacked by mice, and and they were on the bed, and it wasn't happening, but I actually got up and I was like on my bed, going, ah, and mom comes running in, Donnie, what's going on? Mice, mice! This is this is horrible. Oh, that was within a day or two. We went trailer shopping, and I got a brand new trailer. And by the way, I've never lived in a trailer again. I don't want anybody to think that uh nothing wrong with a trailer.

SPEAKER_01 20:19

Yeah, nothing wrong with the trailer.

SPEAKER_00 20:20

Trailers are okay, but not for me. And especially not one with mice.

SPEAKER_01 20:24

Was it the sheriff in that town? Wasn't there some corrupted thing there too where the sheriff had the same name as you?

SPEAKER_00 20:30

Judy, this is actually very bizarre. And it almost makes me kind of think that that's maybe the only reason they hired me. And I got again this high-paying job and afternoon drive in Gillette, Wyoming. Well, when I get there, I find out that the police chief who's under investigation, his name? Exactly my name, Don Schneider, is the police chief in Gillette, Wyoming. And he apparently he did some shady things and was in trouble and had to resign under fire. Well, also. Yeah, and you know what's funny is we just did mention somebody's name. So hopefully that guy's not around anymore. But hey, if you got my name, then uh we're gonna talk about it.

SPEAKER_01 21:10

But wait, wait, wait, and then I have one more thing, because it's like Gillette seemed, like I said, for nowhere, just it could have been anywhere. Isn't it funny that the thing you do there, it still ends up on the news? Whatever it is, no matter what it is on our family, it ends up on the news.

SPEAKER_00 21:26

Yeah, getting fired, working in Gillette and having the same name as the police chief. And although I didn't necessarily get any press on that, I do remember one specific, like my first week on the job, and I used my real name on the radio. And I always wanted to use a fake name, which I eventually did, and we'll get into that in future podcasts and some of our fast forward stuff. But I always wanted to have a fake name. Well, I get to Gillette and they're like, no, we want you to use your real name. And I'm like, okay, you know, I don't know why. Well, I eventually found out why, because the police chief had the same name and they thought it would be funny. Well, my first week on the job, I get a Call, I answer the request line. Hello, I want to hear a song. The lady or whoever it called said, Is this Don Schneider? And I said, Yeah. And they said, We're calling because of this, this, this. And it might have been like a bill collector or some illegal activity, or they're trying to find the former police chief. And weirdly, I had to tell the lady that was calling me to say, hey, listen, that's the police chief you want. I'm the radio guy. I'm the 19-year-old radio personality that has nothing to do with what you're doing, has nothing to do with what you're looking at or looking for. So it was kind of just odd that the actual police chief that you think would be like this high upstanding individual was the criminal. Don Schneider, which, you know, I uh some, you know, some goofy stuff happened in my past that you think that Donnie's the one getting in trouble. No, it was the police chief. Donnie was actually embarking on his radio career, first job in radio, doing a good job, but uh being accused of already criminal activity because I had the same name as that dude. Weird.

SPEAKER_01 23:03

That's why I was like, I think there's a whole lot more to Gillette. We gotta have a whole episode. Gillette. I forgot about Judy.

SPEAKER_00 23:09

I I completely forgot about that.

SPEAKER_01 23:11

I remember coming to visit you once there too, and I think when I was there you had a nightmare too. So I I you must have had some kind of night terror thing going on about all the bad things you did because I think you dreamt that a train was coming through your place too. I want to go back to my old governor's mansion because again, it was that place was interesting. And I did with the pen pals, uh, I did spend Easter with them canoeing on the Mississippi River, so which was kind of a fun little Easter. Um I no heroin or anything like that. But one of my jobs as the apartment manager was I had to take out ads, screen the people, and paint and turn over the apartments clean in between, all that kind of boring crap. And except our dad did a lot of that work for us, which was really, really nice that he always helped. So that was nice, but there was some whack-a-doose living there. I mean crazy wack-a-doose. There's this lady that lived in the basement. And I'm telling you, if the building was built in the 1800s and it has a basement with like, I don't know, maybe a six foot ceiling. That's not a place. Yes, yes, and I don't even know how that passed any kind of fire marshal test or whatever, because I'm like, how are you getting out? But there's all kinds of, I don't mean to say grossness, but it's creepy down there. And pipes and whatever. But I go down there, for some reason I'm down in the basement, and she is down there feeling the walls, touching the walls, and I'm like, is she on drugs or what the hell is going on here? And again, I'm like 17, and I'm like, what are you doing? She's like, I'm uh I'm looking for the passage. I said, What? Yeah, she's like, I'm looking for the passage. I said, The passage to what? A passage to China. You know, creeper.

SPEAKER_00 24:55

She thought there was a wormhole in the basement and she was gonna escape you know, not to some other time, but to the other side of the planet. Okay, this is one of your tenants? Yes, you know, all straight. Hey, listen, if you're in the basement, if you're in the cellar looking for a passageway, get out. We don't want you here.

SPEAKER_01 25:14

Yeah. Well, again, you know, what does it say about me that I'm even living in this place? You know what I mean? Because I I needed a place. And the a lot of the apartments were actually quite cool. But I was also a little bit inexperienced with paying bills and doing all of this stuff. Because again, we never had any education uh about how to do any of these things. So bills are optional. One night, uh I mean, they were. I mean, it's the phone bill was optional. So I came home one night and uh there is all kinds of police activity at the place. There's crime scene tape out. Oh my god. Yeah. And I when I was out under a city. Was it the rain somewhere? No, no. Well, I thought, first of all, I thought it was my phone bill. Um that's because I was such an idiot. Yes, I'm like, I didn't pay my phone bill. What the hell? They send the cops again. I had no idea of what like happened. Well, no, it wasn't that. It was somebody who was actually dead upstairs. That's when I gave my notice. It wasn't the lady because she was in the basement. It was another tenant that was rarely seen. And I'm not quite sure what happened up there, but I will tell you that I gave my notice because again, my job was to clean the place. So yeah, was it gonna take any part?

SPEAKER_00 26:26

Hey, what happens at the governor's mansion stays at the governor's mansion.

SPEAKER_01 26:30

Yes, yeah. Wow. I know.

SPEAKER_00 26:32

Well, then what happened? You gave your notice, then what? Nope.

SPEAKER_01 26:34

I actually did go to another apartment, again, another place, like a real apartment in a real apartment building. So it was my first time. Moving on up. Yep. It was moving on up. It was a real apartment building. It had great orange shag carpeting in there, and it was the bomb. And that's where I was. I didn't get evicted. I stayed there till I moved to Grand Forks at some other later time. So it was actually quite cool. Donnie, I have to tell you. So after I lived in my normal apartment, I actually transferred from Bismarck Junior College to the University of North Dakota, which was the fighting Sioux at the time. Fighting hawk? Yep. There I lived in the dorm most of the time. So I kind of did it backwards. So I was the oldest person in the dorm, which was kind of weird.

SPEAKER_00 27:16

Judy, wasn't it uh was it Grand Forks or Bismarck that you were driving around with a keg in the backseat of your car? Wow.

SPEAKER_01 27:22

That was in Bismarck. Yeah, that wasn't Bismarck. That might have been the night that I that I thought I didn't pay my phone bill when all the cops were there.

SPEAKER_00 27:29

Uh Judy, one more uh housing kind of story, years later, and this goes back to again Gillette, where I had to use my real name on the radio. I did end up using multiple aliases and different names and stuff like that. A lot of people do that in radio, television, not necessarily, but even in when I worked in TV for a few years, uh used my real first name, but I had a fake last name. So over the years, had multiple names. Anyway, fast forward years later, the wife and I are buying our first house in Colorado, all excited and go to the closing and getting ready to, you know, sign all the paperwork. The closing is like, I don't know, a hundred pages of paper that you have to initial and sign and fill out and do this and that. And one of the things on there, weirdly said, Do you go by any aliases? I didn't know what that meant. I thought that meant, but have you ever used another name? And I'm like, yes. So I wrote down the five or six different radio names that I had used at that time. And I gotta tell you right now, Judy, that was not the right answer to write on that paperwork because about 10 minutes later, we're sitting there, and all of a sudden the loan officer comes in and says, All right, uh, we're gonna sit down and talk about this problem. And I'm like, problem? And he goes, Yeah, uh, page 12. I go, what? He goes, These aliases. Well, yeah, I worked in radio and I had all these fake names. So to make a long story short, basically had to explain to him, and it was more of a joke, I guess, that uh I had all these different names. It's not like I was in the witness protection program and living under the name of Bob Smith or something like that in Idaho. These were just names that I used on radio as aliases. So everything ended up being solved, everything was okay, got the house, and uh all's well. Again, that ends well.

SPEAKER_01 29:10

So, what else happened to us as we are kind of going through our journey, right, as we get a little bit older? Uh I think that's some of what we'll be teasing out in some of our next few podcasts.