S2 E1 - The Moment the Past Woke Up

SPEAKER_01 0:00

Judy, here we go. Season two, stories from the middle of nowhere. One is in the books, one down, twelve episodes done. Starting season two, this is our episode number one of season two. Excited to do it. Now we talked about season one, going back up to Mina, the Magic City for your reunion. We did that. Super fun. Driving up was fun. Hanging out in Mina, you and I. That was the first time you and I have been together in Mina in decades. That people have actually seen Donnie and Judy together at the same time in Mina in decades. So we did the reunion. We went and visited some old sites, got some great memories that kind of jogged our memory on some of the stuff we saw, and some stuff that we did not remember that when we went to the scene of the crime, we're like, oh my God, do you remember this? Or I did this or you did that? And all that kind of stuff came flooding back.

SPEAKER_00 0:46

I want to answer the million-dollar question for everybody right now. The million-dollar question is, did Donnie get to take the wheel in the drive from Denver to Minot, Minot to Denver? And the answer is, are you on crack? No, of course not. He absolutely did not get to take the wheel. It was a rental car. I'm like, forget it.

SPEAKER_01 1:03

I got uh very comfortable with the backseat. I never saw the steering wheel the entire trip, which was okay. But for anybody that knows our history and knows season one and the car stories, probably a good idea that uh Donnie didn't get to drive.

SPEAKER_00 1:17

And even in the backseat, you wreck crap. You know, I think you slept on your sunglasses and and ruined those. So again, it just on par for your brand of everything you touch kind of gets wrecked.

SPEAKER_01 1:30

That's absolutely true. When we got up to Minot, one of the first things I had to do was buy new sunglasses because I did fall asleep on the backseat, rolled over. Thank God they were cheap sunglasses because you know it wasn't that big of a deal. But you're right. While sitting in the backseat, something got ruined.

SPEAKER_00 1:44

One of the things that I wanted to address right off the bat here in season two is the 60-year secret. And it's funny how things sometimes turn out. And it's like the butterfly effect where one thing sets a whole chain of events in action or in motion. The chain of events in this case was our very own podcast. In episode one, we teased out the 60-year secret, which we had little bits and pieces of what we thought could have been, but we weren't really sure. In episode one, we also teased out a photograph that we gave as a stocking stuffer and how that also kind of set back some memories for us. And then we also showed our email, which by the way, if you want to email us, hello at stories from the middle of nowhere.com, feel free to do that. But what I will say is that we did get an email from the very first podcast episode. And the email was from our cousin, who I haven't talked to, had a verbal conversation with since uh I was a little girl. So we started communicating via that email or text eventually. But one of the first things she shared was the very same picture that brought back all these memories. Well, after episode four, she reaches out again and she says, I think your mom was in that San Haven institution that get Donny, the one that you went to on the field trip with the whoa buttot. Before it was a mental institution, it was a totally different hospital. It kind of creepy when you think about it. It was a hospital where they put people who had tuberculosis. And what's crazy about all of this is there was a fear that our mom had tuberculosis. So they sent her away. They loaded her up, sent her away to the San Haven Institution hospital at the time. Well, yeah, yeah. You know, what was interesting, the other little crazy part about it is that our dad worked at the Minet Police Department at the time. They ended up testing every cop at the Minut Police Department, thinking that they had it was like a pandemic scare. Anyway, everybody gets tested. Of course, they test negative. Well, my dad goes down to visit our mom. They keep him. They like totally keep him.

SPEAKER_01 4:04

Like he can't leave. It's like Hotel California. You could check out anytime you like, but you can never leave.

SPEAKER_00 4:10

You can stab it with your steely knives, but you just can't kill the beast. Well, anyway, in true dad form, dad the next day is like, well, this is bullshit. And he's like, We're leaving. And so anyway, they pack up and they go. That's kind of the end of the 60-year secret, but it's not really the end of the story because in the same communications with my cousin, she says, Judy, my husband, who's an attorney, ended up suing that place when it became a mental hospital for the mistreatment of patients, right? It's just almost like it was just a bad scheme over there. Yeah, he represented the North Dakota Association of Retarded Citizens and it ended up being the biggest lawsuit of its time. All from that episode four kind of tie-in. So just kind of crazy, kind of bizarre.

SPEAKER_01 4:55

Weird that that was a field trip that we went on that kind of set all those things in motion, and we didn't have a clear picture of exactly what happened and where our mom was. Judy, the only thing I really remember from that whole experience was mom leaving and us, I think, eventually going down to Bismarck, and then her later coming back or us getting reunited. The only thing I remember is crying. And we don't you always joke. You always joke about me crying in sports. Didn't happen, never happened, never cried playing sports. Now, maybe I did cry watching sports, the Vikings, you know, losing some Super Bowls. Might have done a little wow wow with that. But I do remember the day that we got separated and we're heading down to Bismarck and mom's heading somewhere else and crying like a baby. And then weeks later or a month later, or however long that was before dad busted him and mom out of out of the institution, being reunited and crying again. But outside of that, there was just this big puzzle about the 60-year secret and what was it, and where did mom go? And I think at one point we thought, was mom actually institutionalized? And that was before we kind of found out about the TB kind of side of it, and that's what it actually was. These crazy things were going through our head, and we didn't know what was going on. So I'm glad we're kind of able to finally, and we've had people ask us that have watched season one say, Hey, what was that 60-year secret about? Well, now we kind of know.

SPEAKER_00 6:12

We do have other secrets that we'll share throughout the podcast, but it's nice to finally have the answer to this one, which again kind of crazy how we found out about it. And the podcast itself helped us to answer it.

SPEAKER_01 6:25

Judy, back in Mineot, we went up there for your reunion. One of the things we did in Mindot when we went up there was checked out our dog, Snoopy's grave. And we always talk about our strange childhood and some of the wacky stuff that happened growing up. A lot of that's already been documented in 12 episodes in season one. But we also had strange pets.

SPEAKER_00 6:42

Snoopy, well, what was kind of strange when he ended up looking Asian at the older he got, but he he he was he lived to be like 21.

SPEAKER_01 6:51

He was fully grown by the time he eventually passed away. He was 21. Yeah, he was going out to the clubs with us. He went clubbing with us. In fact, it sounds like the start of a joke. Donnie and Judy and their dog Snoopy walk into a bar.

SPEAKER_00 7:04

That's exactly right.

SPEAKER_01 7:05

Well, one of the things I was reminded of was that we had also a strange bird. And we talked about our grandpa was a big bird guy and had the parakeets, and I think that parakeet lived on the top of his head. We had a picture of that in season one, and the bird pooped and ate off his head and all that kind of stuff. And I think that inspired us to eventually get a parakeet as well. So we had this parakeet that we had in a cage. Do you remember the name of the bird? I don't think I remember. No idea. So anyway, we had this bird, and occasionally it would get out of the cage and fly around. And eventually, I don't know if we caught it and put it back in or if it flew back in by itself or whatever happened. But I do remember it was the middle of the winter, Minot, North Dakota. And anybody that's been up in Minot that knows North Dakota winters, poor bird, a hundred miles from the Canadian border, 20 below weather. Somehow our sliding glass door opened. The bird got out in 20 below weather. We were all freaking out and trying to catch the bird and it flew away. And, you know, again, here's another crying thing. I think we all started crying because, you know, the bird's gone. This is the end of us having a bird. Miraculously, the next day, our dad finds the bird in a tree, alive.

SPEAKER_00 8:16

Was he looking at the window at us? Let me in.

SPEAKER_01 8:18

So anyway, we bring the bird back in, and you know, it's shivering and spent out in 20 below weather for a day. Shockingly, the bird was not dead. Well, what ended up happening, and this kind of made ended up making the bird a little bit strange, was that one of the bird's legs, I always tell this story to people, they never believe me, but one of the bird's legs turned black and it crumbled off. The other leg was fine. It survived. It survived on the one leg. So we ended up for another year or two after that, basically having a one-legged bird that hopped around around. Again, strange dog that lived to 21, the one-legged bird, just strange pets all the way around with our existence.

SPEAKER_00 8:57

They also had this red-headed poodle named Ted. Teddy, Theodore. And Teddy was a weird little dog. Uh that's the definite. People would say my dad would carry that dog. His legs were always kind of dangling down straight. And I wondered for years if his feet ever actually even touched the ground because they carried him around so much. But people would ask, is that even a real dog? Is the way he would sit there and look. But one of the weirdest things about Teddy, well, there was a couple, there was actually quite a few, but he would sit and watch TV on the couch or on a chair like a person, where he'd be sitting back and his back legs are straight out, like stretched out, like almost like he's on a recliner. And that's how he would watch TV. Weird thing number two is he loved getting his teeth brushed. And he would race in the bathroom at night, jump up on the vanity, and then and then show his chompers so he would get his teeth brushed by my dad every night, like a little ritual.

SPEAKER_01 9:52

Years later, I had a dog and tried to brush his teeth, and that dog wanted nothing to do with that. So the fact that Teddy was smiling and excited to get his teeth brushed is actually really weird.

SPEAKER_00 10:03

It is. Well, can't just imagine it looking, because I'd be thinking, is he growling at me?

SPEAKER_01 10:07

It wasn't just strange kids growing up. We had strange pets. So, Judy, when we were in Minot, back up for your reunion, you ended up staying in a hotel, but I ended up staying with friends of mine from high school, Todd and Kim. The first night we're there, we're all hanging out and talking and sharing stories, and they're talking about the podcast. And one of the things they brought up was the fact our weird field trips, that uh bizarre field trips that we also went on, the institution one, I think you ended up going on the one to the funeral home. And back in the day, this being the 1970s, nothing was really off limits. We were able to experience, I think, some strange stuff. Todd reminded us, and he went to Bel Air. We went to Perkett, but he went to Bel Air. So I think they had different bizarre field trips that they went on, and we had our own and they had their own. But Todd told us this story about they went on a field trip to a slaughterhouse where, again, you have fifth and sixth grade kids walking in, they're slaughtering live animals or have an animal hanging upside down, and then they come over with a whatever and cut it open, and everything kind of falls out, and blood and guts and and all this kind of stuff. And again, it kind of reminded me of the screaming at the institution because I think Todd said that some people, the guys are kind of sitting around going, cool, you know, that's kind of cool. Wow, look at that. And all the girls were like, ah, and like screaming and running out and crying.

SPEAKER_00 11:29

And crying. They're all vegans today. The other thing that was crazy about that story, a few things. I mean, it was from death, like from the point that the cattle came in and they killed them. So they got to see all of it to the point that it became, you know, a tomahawk steak at the end. Things you can't unsee. It was just kind of crazy. By the way, Todd and Kim were great people. It was wonderful to interact with them. Kim offered to be my wingman at my reunion, which I was really nervous to go back and see these people because I hadn't talked to them in 45 years. And I'm like, am I even gonna know anybody? She offered to be my wingman, and I thought that was actually really cool. It was awesome to see a lot of those people. And what was super funny is I ran into the girls that were on the trip with me where I abandoned the rental car at the airport. And we were laughing our asses off about that whole trip. And then one of them reminded me of our hotel room. So this is in Miami. We're at a totally nice place on this school trip, but our room was trashed. One, we're irresponsible teenagers. And I think we had every article of clothing either out of the suitcase. We had beach towels all over the place. There was sand all over the room. It could have looked like a beach in there. We're in the room and we're under the covers, and the maid comes in. The maid screams, she almost, almost, the maid is like, My God, Emily, Emily, look, look. And then the other maid comes in and is like, oh my God. They're like horrified that this is the room that they have to deal with. It's one really embarrassing that we had a room like that, but we were teenagers at the time, and that's what you do. You just let loose, you went crazy. But anyway, just kind of a funny random moment. The other thing that was really kind of interesting when we were in my not end over at Kim and Todd's house too, was they were talking about uh Kim said that our mom was an interior decorator, which of course we knew that our mom was an interior decorator, but that she had decorated their kids' room and they will never have forgotten her and her sister, who I also met at the golf course. Her and her sister said they will never ever forget our mom's name, Wilhelmina, which that's a hard name to forget anyway, because our mom sat down with them and they were like little kids, like first graders. And our mom said, Describe how you want your room. And they got to have their room exactly the way, and they said that they had the best room ever. And they here that is 50 years later, 60 years later, and they're talking about their rooms from when they were little kids.

SPEAKER_01 14:02

Mom let other kids design and decorate their rooms. We didn't get that consideration growing up. In fact, I think I got in trouble putting a picture on the wall or putting, I think I taped some baseball cards up on the wall or something like that. Got in trouble.

SPEAKER_00 14:15

So Well, it must not have matched their vision for our house. It was really cool to hear that story about our mom, you know, because we knew she was a good designer or whatever. But for somebody to remember that was really quite remarkable.

SPEAKER_01 14:28

Judy, when we were in Maya, we went around and visited some of the scenes of some of these stories that we're talking about, eye-keating furniture world. I think we got a picture of us standing out front. We went and tried to actually look for the slaughterhouse and then confirmed later that that no longer that's not around anymore. So that's been long gone. A couple of the bars that you and I had gone into or tried to go into as teenagers, long gone. Again, this is 40, 50 years later. But some of the stuff we went and saw, obviously, still there, mine at high, Magic City Camp is still there. Went and kind of visited that a little bit. And we went to a grocery store, I think, over on Fourth Avenue, Super Value, and it might have been a Heistler's at the time. And it reminded me of a story back in high school when I was hanging out with a buddy of mine named David, and he had a motorcycle, he had a little Kawasaki, just weird stuff that you do at that age. Again, with dad being a cop, always kind of wanted to be a cop and impersonating cops. And one of the things that David and I did was we would follow people around as they were driving around Minot, and we would follow them like we were tailing them. And just now when I think about it, how bizarre that is, because it's it's called stalking. And you know, and you'd find some woman driving a car, and here we are on a motorcycle behind her driving all around Minot, or wherever, you know, she's driving, we're following her, and I can't imagine that she's looking in the rearview mirror, going, Who are these Yahoos on my tail, or whatever it was. And again, that was just all under the premise of, you know, hey, we're cops. Well, one of the things that we did that was really bizarre, Judy, was over at that Heisler's. We went in there to buy gum. I think we had planned this out. It's like the middle of the summer, and we went into Heisler's and bought a pack of gum, and David and I each had a ski mask. So what we decided to do and thought would be extremely funny is as we're leaving, and we paid for the gum, as we're leaving Heisler's, is before we got to the front door, we put these ski masks on. So the only thing exposed, you know, our eyes. And then we come running out of the grocery store like we had just robbed the place. And, you know, people in the parking lot are probably wondering, what the heck's going on here? And here comes two kids with ski masks, middle of the summer, running out of Heistler's. We jump on his motorcycle and we and we take off. And, you know, that was kind of the end of that. But the the big part of that was that again, always involved with cops or in this case, being bad guys or pretending to be bad guys and whatnot. So can you imagine? Judy, if you did something like that now, you could either get shot.

SPEAKER_00 16:56

What's crazy about that too is how you think that that had anything to do with wanting to be a cop. I'm like, that's the complete opposite.

SPEAKER_01 17:04

It was either end of the spectrum. It was either being a cop or being a bad guy. And I think from season one, we learned a lot that Donnie flirted with being a bad guy a lot. And this was, again, I think, just kind of a stupid prank that we thought would be kind of funny. Hey, listen, the impersonating a cop thing was a real thing because we actually did that. I had another buddy of mine, Steve, and I think he commented on one of our social media posts or one of our episodes commented that he goes, Hey, Donnie, do you remember driving around and you doing the siren out the window? And back in the day, I can't do it anymore because my voice has changed over the years. But back in the day, I could imitate a siren with my voice. And I would do the out the window. If it was loud enough or in the right circumstance, people, it would grab people's attention. This buddy and I, Steve and I would be driving up and down Broadway doing that. Well, I had another buddy, Scott, who actually had a PA system. And he would give me the mic for the PA system. So this is actually not cool. But we would drive around, again, impersonating a cop. Judy, I've got one of Dad's badges. I still occasionally think about maybe I should uh be impersonating, you know, no, you get in trouble, get arrested, all that kind of stuff. Totally illegal. We would drive around Scott's car and I'd do the siren in the PA system, and we actually got people to pull over. And I remember that he got in trouble. The cops actually showed up at his house. And this is one of the stories where it didn't get back to dad because I think Scott fell on the sword for me and didn't Oh my God. Didn't totally bring me into the picture. But the cops showed up at his house and knew that we were pulling cars over. And you know, they didn't know.

SPEAKER_00 18:39

That's like a big deal. Like they have dateline episodes over this, and you idiots are doing that.

SPEAKER_01 18:45

Why not North Dakota? We're driving around, cars are pulling over. And what happened was the cops ended up kind of letting it all go, but his dad made him take the PA out of the car and dismantled that. So never was able to do that again. Cars were actually pulling over with the siren. I remember one time we even went through the car wash, and in the car wash, it was just, hey, let's try it out. And the echo in there was amazing. It sounded just like a police car. And even with the, you know, the and then we did the and all that, and it it just sounded super cool. Can't do it anymore, though.

SPEAKER_00 19:16

Another question people might have is he makes a lot of strange sounds. Does he do that all the time? Yes, he does. He still makes those strange sounds today.

SPEAKER_01 19:25

We did drive around again. I had a couple of little badges of dad's. We had his police lights because he was actually a cop out in Burlington as well. So he had his 69 charger or LTD or whatever he had at the time, and you could put these red lights on top and then plug it into the cigarette lighter and they come on. I took that and a couple of buddies and I are driving around my knot again, just the back roads in the middle of nowhere. And again, if you did this now, this would be like a major crime. You'd actually get arrested and it'd be in the paper, on the news, all that. Again, we pulled cars over. And I remember we pulled this woman over with the red lights, and I'm doing the, you know, siren kind of thing. Lady pulls over and we pull in behind her. And then all of a sudden it's like, what do we do now? Do I walk up there? Do I walk up there like a 16-year-old and go, oh, excuse me, ma'am? Okay, bye. And then run away and get in the car. And I don't know what we did. I think we ended up taking off. We did not end up getting caught in that scenario. However, had another friend of ours that he ended up taking the lights and keeping them because I couldn't go in and out of our house with these lights. So he took the lights home. His name was Brian. And I think one day what happened was, and this is how everything came out, and I did get in trouble for it. His dad was out mowing the lawn and he goes, Dad, look at this. And he comes flying out of his garage and he's got the red lights on and his car and he pulls out of his driveway with these red lights going, Well, at that exact same moment, that exact same moment, a police car is driving.

SPEAKER_00 20:47

Oh no.

SPEAKER_01 20:47

This is how the good times ended. And he got in trouble, the lights got confiscated, and it all got traced back to dad. And then I remember again, it's like one of those scenarios, Judy, where I'm coming home from school and my dad's like, Did you did you take my red lights that were up in the attic and blah, blah, blah? And I'm like, and yeah, I got in major trouble for that. And you know what that led to.

SPEAKER_00 21:12

Grounded.

SPEAKER_01 21:12

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 21:13

Grounded. I think one of the things that's kind of that you were when you were talking about that, it reminded me, I was driving from Minna to Bismarck one time, and I'm flying through one of those little towns that's past Max. Flying. And all of a sudden, there's this old man in a regular car. Like the normal car, not an undercover car. He zooms up beside me and he's flashing this badge and waving at me to pull over. Well, I'm like, you know, you. I'm like not gonna stop, whatever. I'm like, who the hell are you? Some weirdo could have been somebody just like you, but was some old guy. And I don't know if he was trying to make a citizen's arrest or what the deal was, but I'm like, I'm not stopping.

SPEAKER_01 21:52

That's extremely creepy. We did it kind of as a fun thing. This sounds like the dateline thing where this guy could have been trying. To like abduct you or get you to pull over, and then you never know what happens. And screw the citizens' arrest thing. I think it was something more bizarre than that.

SPEAKER_00 22:07

I never forgot it. And whenever I drive through that town and we drove through kind of that area driving up to Minut, I always think of that creeper.

SPEAKER_01 22:15

One of the other things that we did driving around Minut, we went out to Trussle Valley. Trussell Valley is and the building is still out there. We were just kind of driving out there to see what was left of it or where we skied. They had the actual building there, and I think it said on the side of the building, ski Truso Valley or Truso Valley or whatever it said.

SPEAKER_00 22:33

What was kind of a crazy memory from that too is, you know, I know we talked about uh School of Strange, episode four, where we had like 52 gym classes riding the bus out to Truso Valley, but that seemed like such a huge mountain at the time. Kind of a totally random memory that comes to mind about that ski area. Because I know you would ski at night. They had night skiing out there at Trestle Valley. Do you remember the status symbol at the time was how many of those ski tags you could have on your zipper? That was like you were the cool kid if you had 32 of those ski pass things down below.

SPEAKER_01 23:08

I remember one of our friends, Dory, was totally into that and had probably like 40 or 50 of those tags on her coat. We didn't have quite that many, but you're right, that was a big status symbol at the time.

SPEAKER_00 23:18

But it was really cool to see it and also really crazy to see how small it was, and everything was small. I even remember when we drove by our house when we were there, and the place that we used to walk to go to school, and they had this railroad crossing, and you said there was an old man.

SPEAKER_01 23:35

Mr. Borstead.

SPEAKER_00 23:36

Who lived on our street at the end of the block, who would make sure that the kids made it across safely or whatever. That's all kind of overgrown. I don't know if people they don't let them walk that way now.

SPEAKER_01 23:46

That was our walk to school every single day, whether it was, you know, 75 degrees outside or 30 below. That was the way that we walked every single day. And that guy would be in that hut. They had a little white hut there. He would be there, and trains would come by that all kind of just seemed that much smaller. And then even going over to Perkett and looking at our old school, and a lot's changed because they made like a whole new part of it, I think due to the flood or it being underwater and whatnot. But what was weird is that our old wing was still there where we actually went to school.

SPEAKER_00 24:18

I was waiting for you to stick your nose up to the door to see if it smelled like how you remembered it smelled. At the reunion, I also ran into one of my friends, Lisa, who we used to ride motorcycles with because we had our little twin motorcycle. She had a cooler motorcycle. It was actually a little bit bigger. But she reminded me that I was always afraid to drive mine in the gravel because I would get in trouble. And she's like, it's okay to drive it in the gravel, which is kind of weird because right behind the gravel, you and I are doing wheelies and stuff and going off cliffs and doing tricks and you know, I make it sound like it's a big cliff. Okay, it was like a five-foot hill. At a little jump, it was something, something fun, uh a little memory that came up.

SPEAKER_01 24:58

Judy, one of the other things driving around Minot, and I think we had talked about in season one. In fact, one of our episodes was called Breaking News Us Again, because we're always on the news. Ended up, you know, not saying that in a weird way, because dad was in the news being a cop, we were in the news. You ended up being on the front page of the paper, Grant Forks. I ended up being on the paper in Gillette, Wyoming. Actually, it was the Casper Star Tribune with one of my radio jobs. But you and I, while we're back for the reunion, ended up doing an interview with the My Not Daily News about our podcast. Dory's from the middle of nowhere. Real quick, we got to give us a plug. Like us, subscribe to this podcast, follow us.

SPEAKER_00 25:40

Uh subscribe and like what whatever your platform is. We really appreciate it. So, and then continue to watch, of course.

SPEAKER_01 25:45

Anyway, we're back in Minot. We ended up doing an interview with the My Not Daily News talking about our podcast. But what was weird about that, and we knew that, you know, we're gonna end up being in the news or being in the newspaper, but what was really bizarre about that was, and we I think learned this like a day or two later when we got back to Denver and you got back to Florida, was that we ended up on the front page of the My Not Daily News. And Judy, not only the front page, the lead story.

SPEAKER_00 26:13

Yeah, like the whole front half of the newspaper, which was crazy. And the other thing that I thought was really kind of crazy about that too, is it was the day that the Iran war ended. And we were the lead story over that.

SPEAKER_01 26:26

Donnie and Judy are doing a podcast. Oh, by the way, the war ended.

SPEAKER_00 26:29

It was crazy. And then also weird, the butterfly effect, or in this case, the tiger effect. Todd and Kim's daughter, right, who's a zookeeper, is also in the newspaper on the same day, also on the front page.

SPEAKER_01 26:44

This makes it seem like Minot's like this tiny town of 1,200 people and it's kind of like a weekly newspaper. No, my not's like 45,000, 50,000 people. So for you and I to end up on our one trip back to Minot in decades, to end up on the front page of the paper, extremely bizarre. And then again, Todd's daughter also ended up on the front page of the paper. Crazy. How does that happen?

SPEAKER_00 27:05

I know in season one, we also teased out a couple of other things. One, we teased out, hey, what happened with the RV and the boat. That's going to be coming up in season two. We'll have an episode that deals with that. We also talked about our bizarre way in some of our that our family spent holidays and birthdays. So we have a lot of things coming up. Please continue to watch us and like Donnie said, like and subscribe everywhere you can. Follow us on Facebook because you can see sometimes behind the scene things. So again, season two has a lot in store.